Talk:Israel–Hamas war protests

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 April 2024

For Colombia University protests. It currently present it as if the entire protest is anti-Semitic and calling for bloodshed of Israelis and nothing more to it. That's not really accurate and a terrible overgeneralization.

I ask to add in a statement from organisers of the protest that denounced all messages of hate and it doesn't represent them, and that also they are explicitly protesting for the university's divestment from Israel.

In North America chapter, then United States subchapter, and after the second last paragraph, add in this edit;

The organizers of the campus protest, including Columbia University Apartheid Divest and Columbia Students for Justice in Palestine, have emphasized their commitment to a peaceful protest and explicitly disassociated themselves from non-student protesters outside the campus, who they denounced as "inflammatory individuals" who do not align with their political message. The organizers further stated they reject all messages of hate and bigotry, and that they have solidarity with a diverse coalition of students representing various backgrounds, including Palestinian, Muslim, Arab, Jewish, Black, and pro-Palestinian individuals.[1] Furthermore, their stated explicit goal is to conduct peaceful protests and occupy the campus lawn until their university divest its endowments from companies linked to Israel.[2][3][4]49.181.129.196 (talk) 22:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I agree, Wikipedia can't say it's against POV with these sorts of lies of omission. All of the footage of protesters being brutalized on these campus by police and their violent opposition is out there for everyone to see right now. Jester6482 (talk) 01:42, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Update; I haven't followed the article constantly. I just read it now and it appears that someone else completely deleted the biased text. So I suppose my edit request would seem out of place as of 17th May. However after reading the whole chapter, I noticed that someone deleted All information about Colombia University protests. I don't know if that's a good thing but I think such a topic is definitely relevant and important especially when it helped jumpstart a movement of student protesters occupying universities globally to protest against Israel. 49.195.14.46 (talk) 11:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done There is no specific edit requested here anymore so deactivating. In the version as it stands Columbia University is still mentioned in various places, i.e. the sentence starting Student protesters called on Columbia University to financially divest from any company with business ties to the Israeli government * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Remove Palestinian death toll from this article (Synopsis)

Obviously, the death toll is significant and ever-growing, and an important motivator for the protests. But as this is an ongoing dataset, to put it clinically, there would need to be consistent edits made to the article to keep that statistic up to date. As of May 1st, the death toll cited in Israel–Hamas war is 34,596. Meanwhile, this article shows the death toll as merely having "exceeded 30,000", which of course isn't incorrect, but I don't necessarily see the point in having to keep track of the same statistic on two (or potentially more) pages when the stat is constantly changing. Blackjackrobo (talk) 01:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

I would disagree since RS reporting on the protests have always highlighted that the casualty figures were the driving force for the protests. Makeandtoss (talk) 12:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

I take your point. Honestly, I don't really mind it either way anymore. Not sure exactly how to "close" a discussion, but in any case I'm happy to withdraw my original suggestion. Blackjackrobo (talk) 23:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Global Day of Action, global day of action or "global day of action"?

Currently, it's the latter. I think either of the "non-quoted" options would sound less "fake". What say you? InedibleHulk (talk) 17:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Personally, I prefer it in quotes, as it seems to the title of a specific thing. See Global Day of Action on how the term seems to be more commonly used for climate protests, although I have anecdotally also heard it being applied to protests currently. Don't have any sources to prove it ATM. I would be open to changing my mind if there was another mention of a global day of action higher up in the article, prior to the Jakarta protest, to explain what it even is, with RSes corroborating that the protests on the same day were indeed part of the global day of action. As it stands now, without an introduction on what the global day of action was, the 8 references to it throughout the article (not including the 13 Jan protests in Johannesburg, whose mention in this article does not include "as part of a global day of action", but does mention the same date (13 January 2024)) seem jarring, with or without quotation marks.Blackjackrobo (talk) 06:58, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Treatment of violence at protests

Is there consensus that this article should or shouldn't include mentions of violence at individual protests? To cite one example, there is a discussion of peaceful protests in Tunisia on Oct 12, 2023, but no mention of the burning of an historic but defunct synagogue on Oct 17, 2023. See https://www.jta.org/2023/10/18/global/historic-synagogue-in-tunisia-heavily-damaged-in-rioting-tied-to-israel-gaza-war. I would recommend adding "Hundreds of people set fire to an historic but defunct Jewish synagogue in Al Hammah immediately after the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital explosion." ConDissenter (talk) 22:59, 20 May 2024 (UTC)