Talk:Pero Qué Necesidad

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
October 25, 2023	Good article nominee	Not listed
June 3, 2024	Good article nominee	Listed

Current status: Good article

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Pero Qué Necesidad/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Eurohunter (talk · contribs) 18:34, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Magiciandude: I started review. Comments will be below. Review within 2023 GAN Backlog Drives. Eurohunter (talk) 18:34, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

"it reached number one on the Billboard Hot Latin Songs in the United States" - if Billboard isn't part of the record chart name, then shouldn't it be "Billboard's Hot Latin Songs"? The same for section "Promotion and reception". Eurohunter (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Background and composition[edit]

There is no introduction to previous "Fue un Placer Conocerte" (again, why capitalised?) and next single "Lentamente". Eurohunter (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is no introduction to track duration. Eurohunter (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion and reception[edit]

I would note that Mario Tarradell review is according to album. Eurohunter (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Other[edit]

Why is the title "Pero qué necesidad" capitalised if Spanish language not requires it, and we also write French or Italian titles without capitals. Eurohunter (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sections "Track listings", "Personnel", "Charts" and "Release history" are missing. Eurohunter (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is there enough notable songs produced by Gustavo Farias to create Category:Song recordings produced by Gustavo Farias? Eurohunter (talk) 20:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Links to redirects in references also missing links for Billboard. Eurohunter (talk) 20:29, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Incorrect titles in references. For example, the title of reference 11 is just "Gracias Por Esperar - Juan Gabriel". Eurohunter (talk) 20:29, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Replace parameter "Work" or "Publisher" with "Website" in references. Eurohunter (talk) 20:29, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There have been no responses here or edits to the article since the nomination was opened, so I have closed this nomination. Please feel free to renominate this article once the above issues have been looked over and the article otherwise meets the WP:GACR. Best, CMD (talk) 12:42, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Pero Qué Necesidad/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Magiciandude (talk · contribs) 17:48, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 08:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

b. (citations to reliable sources):

c. (OR):

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

b. (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Of course we've been in reviews together for the past so you know what to expect; this one should be done quickly! --K. Peake 08:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead[edit]

Change Soundabout Studio to Soundabout per Template:Infobox song
The translation title can be written out in the body, rather than invoking the ref in the lead
"Its production was handled by" → "The song was produced by" and also add written by Juan Gabriel since the lead is short enough that you could do with this inclusion
"The song is a" → "It is a" to sound less repetitive
"It was released" → "The song was released"
"with critics listing" → "with a few critics listing"
The term "several" being used is redundant
Add a comma before whose in the last sentence

Background and composition[edit]

Add the release year of "Heal the World" on the audio sample
"a hiatus following legal disputes" → "a hiatus after legal disputes"
"The dispute involved Gabriel" → "The dispute involved Juan Gabriel" to be consistent
"but would not be released" → "but it would not be released"
"and Gabriel renewed his" → "and Juan Gabriel renewed his"
"both the name of the album" → "both the album's title of" removing the brackets since they would not be needed in this case
"in which lyrics describes" → "in which the lyrics describe"
"He re-recorded the track" → "Juan Gabriel re-recorded the track"

Promotion and reception[edit]

Per the Los Angeles Times ref currently used in the lead, add a second sentence with the translated title and mention the Spanish radio from that ref
"brotherhood". It features children" → "brotherhood", featuring children" to improve the flow
"Ramiro Burr wrote for the" → "Ramiro Burr, writing for the"
"compared it to ABBA" → "compared the song to ABBA"
"despite its "serious theme", he found it" → "despite the "serious theme", he found the song"
"Classic Rock reviewer ranked it" → "a Classic Rock reviewer ranked the song" and the source shows number seven for me, not number three
"Gabriel earned the" → "Juan Gabriel earned the"
"Commercially, it topped" → "Commercially, the track topped"

Charts[edit]

Why is this table not present when the song did reach charts?

References[edit]

Copyvio score looks fab at 21.3%!!!
Cite Classic Rock as magazine instead on ref 2
Wikilink La Tercera on ref 7
Wikilink Austin American-Statesman on ref 8
El Diario NY → El Diario New York and pipe to El Diario La Prensa on ref 9
Remove AllMusic from the title of ref 11
Pipe Billboard to Billboard (magazine) on ref 12
Pipe Proceso to Proceso (magazine) on ref 16
For ref 21 and the prose, be consistent with either Singersroom or SingersRoom
Cite Univision as publisher instead on ref 22, removing Univision Communications altogether
Wikilink Prometheus Global Media on ref 23
Wikilink La Prensa de San Antonio on ref 27

Final thoughts and verdict[edit]

On hold until everything is covered; this article passes a lot of the criterion but some changes are needed to get it over the line! --K. Peake 08:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kyle Peake Thanks as always for the reviews! I addressed everything mentioned, but I wasn't sure what you meant with the LA Times article for the translation so I did the best as I understood. Erick (talk) 23:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Erick Thank you, however "compared it to ABBA" needs to use the song instead and wikilink La Tercera on ref 7; the translation source is exactly to my liking fab job! --K. Peake 09:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kyle Peake Done Erick (talk) 15:39, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Pass now, thanks for the quick fixes here! --K. Peake 17:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Lead[edit]

Background and composition[edit]

Promotion and reception[edit]

Other[edit]

GA Review[edit]

Infobox and lead[edit]

Background and composition[edit]

Promotion and reception[edit]

Charts[edit]

See also[edit]

References[edit]

Final thoughts and verdict[edit]